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		<title>38.118.23.100: /* Misc Tips */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Misc Tips&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Avoid cutting checks to people whenever possible.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Avoid cutting checks to people whenever possible.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Jonlesser: Adding notes from Nick Farr&#039;s discussion with the Harford Hackerspace</title>
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		<updated>2009-07-15T04:38:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Adding notes from Nick Farr&amp;#039;s discussion with the Harford Hackerspace&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;This was a [http://harfordhackerspace.org/ Harford Hackerspace] meeting. Matt, Patrick, Kelly, Mark, and Jon attended. [http://nickfarr.org/ Nick Farr] of [http://hacdc.org/ HacDC], and accountant by day, also attended to help the Harford folks work through their [http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1023.pdf IRS form 1023] (501(c)(3) application). These are my notes from Nick&amp;#039;s comments. -[[User:Jonlesser|Jonlesser]] 04:38, 15 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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===501(c)(3) application process===&lt;br /&gt;
* When you file the 1023 form, you will be assigned a specific examiner.&lt;br /&gt;
* It is a good idea to communicate things to your examiner while they are working on your application. e.g., events or activities, updates on the search for space, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* Filing for an exempt status other that 501(c)(3) is fine, but 501(c)(3) is appropriate for Hackerspaces in the model of HacDC, Noisebridge, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
* Very few 501(c)(3) apps are turned down. They will reply with questions or request clarification rather than deny you. Some examiners always ask questions, regardless of the application.&lt;br /&gt;
* Always file a 990 form, even if you don&amp;#039;t have to, because your group will be added to public lists of non-profit groups and this can bring fringe benefits.&lt;br /&gt;
* Narrative description&lt;br /&gt;
** Answer the questions that they ask in the narrative&lt;br /&gt;
** Cover all of the time you operate. E.g., Describe what the group is doing each day of the week. &lt;br /&gt;
** Use the space itself as an overarching project &lt;br /&gt;
* When talking about fund raising , keep it simple and constrained to what you&amp;#039;re actually doing. Don&amp;#039;t need to speculate about what you might do in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Taxes===&lt;br /&gt;
* If you GROSS less than $20,000, you don&amp;#039;t need to file a tax return, however, you do need to file a &amp;quot;postcard&amp;quot; just to check in. &lt;br /&gt;
* Writing off dues and donations is between the member/donor and their accountant.&lt;br /&gt;
* Do not put a value on any donated things. Let the donor establish the value and work with their own accountant to get a write off.&lt;br /&gt;
* If anyone received more than $700, you need to provide that person with a 1099-MISC so they can report the income on their taxes&lt;br /&gt;
* Reimbursements require receipts. The receipts must show the items purchased, not just the totals. You don&amp;#039;t need to provide 1099-MISC&amp;#039;s for straight reimbursements, even if they exceed $700.&lt;br /&gt;
* We can realize some profit from classes or workshops. It&amp;#039;s good to give people something to take home, even if it&amp;#039;s just printed instructions, so it can be said for tax reasons that they are receiving something tangible.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bylaws===&lt;br /&gt;
* Things to address in the bylaws: succession, money, annual report, how things get decided&lt;br /&gt;
* Indicate that honorarium&amp;#039;s are possible&lt;br /&gt;
* Make sure voting depends on payment of dues.&lt;br /&gt;
* The corp should disavow any rights to intellectual property. This will encourage coworkers.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Insurance===&lt;br /&gt;
* Get the insurance agent to physically walk through the space. Take pictures of the agent inside the space. &lt;br /&gt;
* Send quarterly updates to the insurance agent. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Misc Tips===&lt;br /&gt;
* Avoid cutting checks to people whenever possible.&lt;br /&gt;
* Never load anyone money&lt;br /&gt;
* Never let anyone live in the space for any period of time. &lt;br /&gt;
* Do not do child care&lt;br /&gt;
* Don&amp;#039;t necessarily need an attorney or accountant for starting non profit, unless there are going to have employees. If your organization grosses less than $100,000, you shouldn&amp;#039;t have any full time employees. If you have more than $100,000, then you should have an accountant. &lt;br /&gt;
* Members cannot make money selling anything to the organization. This includes commissions.&lt;br /&gt;
* Directors and officers should not accept honorariums for any reason&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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