https://wiki.baltimorenode.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Roj&feedformat=atomBaltimore Node Wiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-29T07:38:30ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.34.1https://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=377Finding a space2009-07-04T19:05:05Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
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<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. Node shouldn't have to pay for space.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
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{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
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! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
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| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
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| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available || || || ||<br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) || || || || ||<br />
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| 118 N Liberty || || || || || || ||<br />
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| 1600 Bush St || || || || || || ||<br />
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| 201 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
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| 170 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
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| 3 N. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
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| 1601 Warner || || City Owned || || || || ||<br />
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| 1002 N Eden St || Ida Allred (410) 276-2772 || SCOPE sale $29,900 <br />
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| Unknown || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253093229.html <br />
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| Catonsville || 410-979-0856 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253292746.html<br />
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| 2713 North Point Blvd || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253092840.html<br />
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| Essex || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253069747.html<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1518+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&sll=39.288386,-76.642368&sspn=0.001358,0.002411&g=1536+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&ie=UTF8&ll=39.288503,-76.642049&spn=0.001358,0.002411&t=h&z=19 1518-1536 W. Baltimore St] || Chris Cooke 443.802.2728 || Warehouse, 8 car parking, loading dock, office space w/ conference area, loft. || 10,000+ || offered at $3,500/mo. Negotiate! || $.35 or less || [http://baltimorecityrealestate.com/listing_detailed.asp?disporder=4&listing_id=417 listing] || yes<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2334+Guilford+Ave+,+Baltimore&sll=39.288532,-76.642049&sspn=0.0013,0.002411&ie=UTF8&ll=39.316454,-76.612751&spn=0.002598,0.004823&t=h&z=18&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=39.316556,-76.61276&panoid=5sNaNUj1Lb9eEvT-_Eyltg&cbp=12,231.14,,0,8 2334 Guilford Ave] || Steve 202-320-1000 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1248631869.html Negotiate! || 5300 || $2000/mo || $.38 || <br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/?q=loc%3A+1015+Hillen+Street+Baltimore+Maryland+US1015 Hillen Street] || 443-854-1310 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1244832722.html || 1500 || $750 || .50 <br />
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| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
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== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
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=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
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''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 500 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=376Finding a space2009-07-04T18:57:09Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. Node shouldn't have to pay for space.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
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{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
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! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available || || || ||<br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1002 N Eden St || Ida Allred (410) 276-2772 || SCOPE sale $29,900 <br />
|-<br />
| Unknown || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253093229.html <br />
|-<br />
| Catonsville || 410-979-0856 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253292746.html<br />
|-<br />
| 2713 North Point Blvd || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253092840.html<br />
|-<br />
| Essex || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253069747.html<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1518+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&sll=39.288386,-76.642368&sspn=0.001358,0.002411&g=1536+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&ie=UTF8&ll=39.288503,-76.642049&spn=0.001358,0.002411&t=h&z=19 1518-1536 W. Baltimore St] || Chris Cooke 443.802.2728 || Warehouse, 8 car parking, loading dock, office space w/ conference area, loft. || 10,000+ || offered at $3,500/mo. Negotiate! || $.35 or less || [http://baltimorecityrealestate.com/listing_detailed.asp?disporder=4&listing_id=417 listing]<br />
|- <br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2334+Guilford+Ave+,+Baltimore&sll=39.288532,-76.642049&sspn=0.0013,0.002411&ie=UTF8&ll=39.316454,-76.612751&spn=0.002598,0.004823&t=h&z=18&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=39.316556,-76.61276&panoid=5sNaNUj1Lb9eEvT-_Eyltg&cbp=12,231.14,,0,8 2334 Guilford Ave] || Steve 202-320-1000 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1248631869.html Negotiate! || 5300 || $2000/mo || $.38 || <br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?q=loc%3A+1015+Hillen+Street+Baltimore+Maryland+US1015 Hillen Street] || 443-854-1310 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1244832722.html || 1500 || $750 || .50 <br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 500 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=375Finding a space2009-07-04T18:56:52Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. Node shouldn't have to pay for space.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
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{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available || || || ||<br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1002 N Eden St || Ida Allred (410) 276-2772 || SCOPE sale $29,900 <br />
|-<br />
| Unknown || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253093229.html <br />
|-<br />
| Catonsville || 410-979-0856 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253292746.html<br />
|-<br />
| 2713 North Point Blvd || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253092840.html<br />
|-<br />
| Essex || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253069747.html<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1518+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&sll=39.288386,-76.642368&sspn=0.001358,0.002411&g=1536+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&ie=UTF8&ll=39.288503,-76.642049&spn=0.001358,0.002411&t=h&z=19 1518-1536 W. Baltimore St] || Chris Cooke 443.802.2728 || Warehouse, 8 car parking, loading dock, office space w/ conference area, loft. || 10,000+ || offered at $3,500/mo. Negotiate! || $.35 or less || [http://baltimorecityrealestate.com/listing_detailed.asp?disporder=4&listing_id=417 listing]<br />
|- <br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2334+Guilford+Ave+,+Baltimore&sll=39.288532,-76.642049&sspn=0.0013,0.002411&ie=UTF8&ll=39.316454,-76.612751&spn=0.002598,0.004823&t=h&z=18&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=39.316556,-76.61276&panoid=5sNaNUj1Lb9eEvT-_Eyltg&cbp=12,231.14,,0,8 2334 Guilford Ave] || Steve 202-320-1000 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1248631869.html Negotiate! || 5300 || $2000/mo || $.38 || <br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?q=loc%3A+1015+Hillen+Street+Baltimore+Maryland+US1015 Hillen Street] || 443-854-1310 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1244832722.html || 1500 || $750 || .50 <br />
|<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 500 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=370Finding a space2009-07-04T18:30:06Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. Node shouldn't have to pay for space.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
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=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
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! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
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| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available || || || ||<br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1002 N Eden St || Ida Allred (410) 276-2772 || SCOPE sale $29,900 <br />
|-<br />
| Unknown || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253093229.html <br />
|-<br />
| Catonsville || 410-979-0856 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253292746.html<br />
|-<br />
| 2713 North Point Blvd || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253092840.html<br />
|-<br />
| Essex || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253069747.html<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1518+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&sll=39.288386,-76.642368&sspn=0.001358,0.002411&g=1536+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&ie=UTF8&ll=39.288503,-76.642049&spn=0.001358,0.002411&t=h&z=19 1518-1536 W. Baltimore St] || Chris Cooke 443.802.2728 || Warehouse, 8 car parking, loading dock, office space w/ conference area, loft. || 10,000+ || offered at $3,500/mo. Negotiate! || $.35 or less || [http://baltimorecityrealestate.com/listing_detailed.asp?disporder=4&listing_id=417 listing]<br />
|- <br />
| 2334 Guilford Ave || Steve 202-320-1000 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1248631869.html Negotiate! || 5300 || $2000/mo || $.38 || <br />
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| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
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== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 500 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=369Finding a space2009-07-04T18:25:55Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. Node shouldn't have to pay for space.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
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{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
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! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available || || || ||<br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1002 N Eden St || Ida Allred (410) 276-2772 || SCOPE sale $29,900 <br />
|-<br />
| Unknown || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253093229.html <br />
|-<br />
| Catonsville || 410-979-0856 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253292746.html<br />
|-<br />
| 2713 North Point Blvd || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253092840.html<br />
|-<br />
| Essex || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253069747.html<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1518+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&sll=39.288386,-76.642368&sspn=0.001358,0.002411&g=1536+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&ie=UTF8&ll=39.288503,-76.642049&spn=0.001358,0.002411&t=h&z=19 1518-1536 W. Baltimore St] || Chris Cooke 443.802.2728 || Warehouse, 8 car parking, loading dock, office space w/ conference area, loft. || 10,000+ || offered at $3,500/mo. Negotiate. || $.35 or less || [http://baltimorecityrealestate.com/listing_detailed.asp?disporder=4&listing_id=417 listing]<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 500 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=368Finding a space2009-07-04T18:24:07Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. Node shouldn't have to pay for space.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
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{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available || || || ||<br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1002 N Eden St || Ida Allred (410) 276-2772 || SCOPE sale $29,900 <br />
|-<br />
| Unknown || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253093229.html <br />
|-<br />
| Catonsville || 410-979-0856 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253292746.html<br />
|-<br />
| 2713 North Point Blvd || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253092840.html<br />
|-<br />
| Essex || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253069747.html<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1518+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&sll=39.288386,-76.642368&sspn=0.001358,0.002411&g=1536+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&ie=UTF8&ll=39.288503,-76.642049&spn=0.001358,0.002411&t=h&z=19 1518-1536 W. Baltimore St] || Chris Cooke 443.802.2728 || Warehouse, 8 car parking, loading dock, office space w/ conference area, loft || 10,000+ || offered at $3,500/mo || $.35 or less || [http://baltimorecityrealestate.com/listing_detailed.asp?disporder=4&listing_id=417 listing]<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 500 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=367Finding a space2009-07-04T18:23:33Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. Node shouldn't have to pay for space.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available || || || ||<br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1002 N Eden St || Ida Allred (410) 276-2772 || SCOPE sale $29,900 <br />
|-<br />
| Unknown || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253093229.html <br />
|-<br />
| Catonsville || 410-979-0856 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253292746.html<br />
|-<br />
| 2713 North Point Blvd || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253092840.html<br />
|-<br />
| Essex || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253069747.html<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1518+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&sll=39.288386,-76.642368&sspn=0.001358,0.002411&g=1536+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&ie=UTF8&ll=39.288503,-76.642049&spn=0.001358,0.002411&t=h&z=19 1518-1536 W. Baltimore St] || Chris Cooke 443.802.2728 || Warehouse, 8 car parking, loading dock, office space w/ conference area, loft || 10,000 || offered at $3,500/mo || $.35 || [http://baltimorecityrealestate.com/listing_detailed.asp?disporder=4&listing_id=417 listing]<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
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|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 500 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=365Finding a space2009-07-04T18:20:05Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. Node shouldn't have to pay for space.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
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{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
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! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available || || || ||<br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1002 N Eden St || Ida Allred (410) 276-2772 || SCOPE sale $29,900 <br />
|-<br />
| Unknown || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253093229.html <br />
|-<br />
| Catonsville || 410-979-0856 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253292746.html<br />
|-<br />
| 2713 North Point Blvd || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253092840.html<br />
|-<br />
| Essex || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253069747.html<br />
|-<br />
| 1518-1536 W. Baltimore St || Chris Cooke 443.802.2728 || Warehouse, 8 car parking, loading dock, office space w/ conference area, loft || 10,000 || offered at $3,500/mo || $.35 || [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1518+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&sll=39.288386,-76.642368&sspn=0.001358,0.002411&g=1536+W.+Baltimore+Street,+Baltimore&ie=UTF8&ll=39.288503,-76.642049&spn=0.001358,0.002411&t=h&z=19 map]<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
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|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 500 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=363Finding a space2009-07-04T18:18:51Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. Node shouldn't have to pay for space.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
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{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
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|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available || || || ||<br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1002 N Eden St || Ida Allred (410) 276-2772 || SCOPE sale $29,900 <br />
|-<br />
| Unknown || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253093229.html <br />
|-<br />
| Catonsville || 410-979-0856 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253292746.html<br />
|-<br />
| 2713 North Point Blvd || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253092840.html<br />
|-<br />
| Essex || 410-592-6300 || http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/1253069747.html<br />
|-<br />
| 1518-1536 W. Baltimore St || Chris Cooke 443.802.2728 || Warehouse, 8 car parking, loading dock, office space w/ conference area, loft || 10,000 || offered at $3,500/mo || <br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
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|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 500 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=360Finding a space2009-07-04T18:02:24Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. Node shouldn't have to pay for space.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available || || || ||<br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave || || || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned || || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| 1002 N Eden St || Ida Allred (410) 276-2772 || SCOPE sale $29,900 <br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 500 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=341Finding a space2009-07-04T02:17:02Z<p>Roj: /* Price range */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. Node shouldn't have to pay for space.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=340Finding a space2009-07-04T02:16:48Z<p>Roj: /* Price range */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=339Finding a space2009-07-04T02:08:14Z<p>Roj: /* Location types */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School''' - The following recommended for closing after 2008/2009 school year:<br />
** Highlandtown Middle #43<br />
** Harlem Park Middle #78<br />
** Dr. Roland N. Patterson, Sr. Academy #82<br />
** Elmer A. Henderson Elementary #101<br />
** Southwestern High School #412<br />
** Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy #429<br />
** August Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts #430<br />
** Renaissance Academy #433<br />
** Dr. Samuel L. Banks High School #420<br />
** Academy of Career and College Exploration #427<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=338Finding a space2009-07-04T02:00:24Z<p>Roj: /* Location types */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''School'''<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. (Beautiful facade, [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=506+N+Howard+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.010308,0.022724&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZuZVwId9d5u-w&split=0&ll=39.295408,-76.62017&spn=0.000645,0.00142&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A Definitely no roof] -JL) <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=336Finding a space2009-07-04T00:39:48Z<p>Roj: /* Location types */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' - Generally fairly easy to secure<br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=335Finding a space2009-07-04T00:37:23Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' <br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=334Finding a space2009-07-04T00:30:29Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' <br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 1601 Warner || || City Owned<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=333Finding a space2009-07-04T00:26:31Z<p>Roj: /* Location types */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Church''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Bank''' <br />
* '''Library'''<br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=332Finding a space2009-07-04T00:26:04Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Churches''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Banks''' <br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| 201 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 170 S. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| 3 N. Central Ave<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=328Finding a space2009-07-04T00:17:38Z<p>Roj: /* Location types */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Churches''' - Generally large open spaces, plus some office/residential space available. Sometimes includes parking.<br />
* '''Banks''' <br />
* '''Light Industrial''' <br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=327Finding a space2009-07-04T00:11:42Z<p>Roj: /* Can't have */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint (ANY lead paint)<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=324Finding a space2009-07-03T23:56:11Z<p>Roj: /* Nice to have */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
* Loading dock<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=323Finding a space2009-07-03T23:53:15Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
| 1600 Bush St <br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=322Finding a space2009-07-03T23:32:06Z<p>Roj: /* Ideal locations */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
Geographically, I'd focus on the area south and west of the stadium complex (between Russel St and Washington Blvd) out to the Montgomery Park building, then the Arts District near the Hippodrome (more familiar to me - roj ), then the I83/Falls Road corridor. <br />
<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=321Finding a space2009-07-03T23:31:33Z<p>Roj: /* Price range */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
Given the mission as it appears to be evolving, I'd recommend commercial/light industrial property over any sort of residential situation (avoid neighbor complaints) - and I'd look for funding sources (grants, donations, etc.) long before I'd commit to a particular location.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=320Finding a space2009-07-03T23:30:43Z<p>Roj: /* Price range */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
<br />
Baltimore is a big, empty city. You shouldn't have to pay for space. <br />
<br />
There's a category of city-owned property that's definitely available, bank-owned (foreclosed) property that's probably available,<br />
encumbered (lien) property that is available, and privately-owned neglected property that's available. All of which are going to be cheap and could be free, depending on negotiating skills. If you get through enough of the 501(c)3 process, even privately-owned properties can be donated to the organization for a greater tax write-off than retaining the property as a depreciable asset.<br />
<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=319Finding a space2009-07-03T22:58:30Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available <br />
|- <br />
| 506 N. Howard || || Mayfair Theater. City Owned. Probably no roof. <br />
|-<br />
| 118 N Liberty<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=318Finding a space2009-07-03T22:44:34Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.311108,-76.618974&spn=0,359.98071&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.3111,-76.619087&panoid=VcuKoWrCNkcquW6MshC4kA&cbp=12,30.97,,0,5.16 Load of Fun - 120 North Ave] (Station North Arts District) || Sherwin ''Kelly has email'' || One big room, currently used as theatre. See tour notes on [[LoadOfFun]]. || ~700 (18.5' x 36.75') || $600 || $0.97 || [http://www.loadoffun.net/LoadofFun/AboutLoadofFun.html About Load of Fun] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620739089143/ pics]|| Yes (Kelly + 7)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.receivership.net/312EUTAW.html 20 N Eutaw ] || || Former club "The Tunnel" Current tax assessment ~$1m || 55,000 available || || || || ||<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Questions for a Potential Landlord ==<br />
* What power is available?<br />
* Can we weld, cut, grind materials in here?<br />
* Do we have roof access? Can we put antennas on the roof?<br />
* Policies regarding alcohol<br />
* Lease length. Early termination fee?<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Project_Proposals&diff=314Project Proposals2009-07-03T19:55:26Z<p>Roj: /* Internet access in the inner city */</p>
<hr />
<div>== UAV Project(s) ==<br />
<br />
=== Ardupilot ===<br />
<br />
[http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/ardupilot-main-page Kit]<br />
<br />
==== Parts: ====<br />
<br />
* 1x $25 board that connects to an arduino to control a plane, boat, or car via gps.<br />
* 1x GPS Module $60 <br />
* 1x Optional board to make it compatible with R/C planes.<br />
<br />
=== Blimpduino ===<br />
<br />
[http://store.diydrones.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=KT-0000-01 Kit]<br />
<br />
== Bicycle POV LED ==<br />
<br />
==== Examples: ====<br />
http://www.instructables.com/id/RGBike-POV-Open-project/<br />
<br />
==== Parts: ====<br />
<br />
* 1x ATMega328p / ATMega168 microcontroller<br />
* 1x TLC5940 / TLC5941, 16 PWM Ouput LED driver<br />
* 16x Superflux RGB LEDs<br />
* 1x A3213<br />
* 3x PN2222, NPN transistors<br />
* Assorted resistors, capacitors, tact switches and connectors (check schematic and board layout)<br />
<br />
== Gorilla Marketing ==<br />
HonFest marks the beginning of the festival season. While its too late to get booth at any of these events its not too late to make our presence known. What if we had a workshop where we made some sort of gorilla marketing device. One way to go would be some sort electronic apparel, like an ambient orb hat or some kind of musical shirt, etc. Or it could follow examples of other gorilla marketers like the [http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/about.php|chalk printing bicycle] or a flashing LED signs (WARNING: Not sure if the Baltimore police are as reactionary as the [http://laughingsquid.com/aqua-teen-hunger-force-promo-causes-panic-in-boston| Boston police].) Something simple, fun and easy to individualize. Why not tell people about the newly energized Baltimore Hacker community?<br />
<br />
== Ambient Orb ==<br />
<br />
==== Examples: ====<br />
<br />
* http://fightpc.blogspot.com/2008/03/arduino-mood-light.html<br />
* http://www.instructables.com/id/Mobius_LED_Lantern/<br />
<br />
==== Parts: ====<br />
<br />
* 1 x Arduino or Clone ~$20-$30<br />
* 1 x Some Sort of Difuser. i.e. Frosted lamp, saran wrap, etc. $0-A lot<br />
* 1+ LED's high or low power<br />
** Low Power LED: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=105<br />
*** Does not require extra parts<br />
** http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8718<br />
*** High Power LED: External power source: http://store.gravitech.us/waadswposu12.html<br />
*** Heatsink<br />
<br />
== Weather Instruments and Networks ==<br />
<br />
Build weather instruments, assemble into a weather station using wifi, etc. Install around Inner Harbor, and "Northwest Harbor" (Canton). Especially wind and waves for sailors. <br />
<br />
Instruments, compare with Ft. McHenry data http://opendap.co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/stations/stationData.jsp?id=8574680 and http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/geo.shtml?location=21201<br />
<br />
Feed data to:<br />
* weather underground http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/index.asp<br />
* Citizen Weather Observer Program http://www.wxqa.com/ and http://www.findu.com/<br />
* NOAA http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/coop/ & other programs<br />
* Local marinas & sailing centers:<br />
** downtownsailing.org<br />
<br />
Installation locations:<br />
* downtownsailing.org at Baltimore Museum of Industry, Riverside/Locust Point.<br />
* Marinas<br />
<br />
===== Display stations =====<br />
Build a small display station with LCD display from salvaged laptop showing wind, waves, sever-weather/radar, etc. for the Inner Harbor. Install at marinas, etc.<br />
<br />
== AM Radio Transmitter ==<br />
You don't need any sort of licensing to broadcast on AM frequencies if your transmitter is 100 milliwatts or less. A transmitter with a basic wire antenna can get 50 to 200 feet of range, however a more substantial outdoor antenna can transmit as far as two miles. I would be interested in setting up an internet radio station and then using multiple transmitters to broadcast that station over AM around Baltimore. The transmitter stations would require enough computing resources to connect to the internet in some way, decode an internet radio stream, and output an audio signal to the AM transmitter. The transmitters themselves can be purchased for about $75-100 dollars, but it's possible we could construct a transmitter from plans for much cheaper. Five to ten well placed transmitters could cover a significant amount Baltimore city. <br />
* [http://www.sstran.com/index.html Transmitter Information]<br />
* [http://www.fcc.gov/lpfm/ Low Power FM (!) alternative] (My understanding is that the Man is not accepting applications for LPFM stations. [[User:Jonlesser|Jonlesser]] 02:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC))<br />
<br />
===== Steps =====<br />
<br />
* Setup a stream<br />
* Build an Arduino/xbee that dials into the stream and outputs audio (I'm don't think an Arduino has the processing power to connect to the internet, decode an audio stream, and provide an analog output. An old laptop or eeepc, which already had network and audio interfaces might be cheap enough to work. [[User:Jonlesser|Jonlesser]] 03:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC))<br />
* Connect audio with AM transmitter<br />
* Build a nice case with antennae(s)<br />
* Replicate and distribute<br />
* Broadcast to the masses<br />
<br />
===== Hacker Radio Broadcast topics =====<br />
<br />
* Freeculture<br />
* DIY discussions<br />
* Copyright law<br />
* Opensource<br />
* Coverage of local events<br />
* Creative Commons music show?<br />
<br />
== Intervention at Baltimore Development Collective's geodesic dome ==<br />
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/artbma/3620589054/ This dome] is a finalist in the Sondheim Artscape Prize. It's located in front of the Baltimore Museum of Art. It is just begging for a techno-art intervention from the Baltimore Node.<br />
<br />
== RFID-tag City Landmarks ==<br />
Enable self-guided walking tours.<br />
<br />
== Veteran's Transponders ==<br />
Hardware and/or software that allows veterans to recognize each other when proximate based on war/battle/unit data.<br />
<br />
== Internet access in the inner city ==<br />
Wireless mesh?<br />
Public Computer Centers ([http://broadbandusa.sc.egov.usda.gov/files/BB%20NOFA%20FINAL%20with%20disclaimer_1.pdf PDF]) - Federal stimulus funds available. Application window is July 14-August 14.</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Project_Proposals&diff=312Project Proposals2009-07-03T19:53:12Z<p>Roj: /* Internet access in the inner city */</p>
<hr />
<div>== UAV Project(s) ==<br />
<br />
=== Ardupilot ===<br />
<br />
[http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/ardupilot-main-page Kit]<br />
<br />
==== Parts: ====<br />
<br />
* 1x $25 board that connects to an arduino to control a plane, boat, or car via gps.<br />
* 1x GPS Module $60 <br />
* 1x Optional board to make it compatible with R/C planes.<br />
<br />
=== Blimpduino ===<br />
<br />
[http://store.diydrones.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=KT-0000-01 Kit]<br />
<br />
== Bicycle POV LED ==<br />
<br />
==== Examples: ====<br />
http://www.instructables.com/id/RGBike-POV-Open-project/<br />
<br />
==== Parts: ====<br />
<br />
* 1x ATMega328p / ATMega168 microcontroller<br />
* 1x TLC5940 / TLC5941, 16 PWM Ouput LED driver<br />
* 16x Superflux RGB LEDs<br />
* 1x A3213<br />
* 3x PN2222, NPN transistors<br />
* Assorted resistors, capacitors, tact switches and connectors (check schematic and board layout)<br />
<br />
== Gorilla Marketing ==<br />
HonFest marks the beginning of the festival season. While its too late to get booth at any of these events its not too late to make our presence known. What if we had a workshop where we made some sort of gorilla marketing device. One way to go would be some sort electronic apparel, like an ambient orb hat or some kind of musical shirt, etc. Or it could follow examples of other gorilla marketers like the [http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/about.php|chalk printing bicycle] or a flashing LED signs (WARNING: Not sure if the Baltimore police are as reactionary as the [http://laughingsquid.com/aqua-teen-hunger-force-promo-causes-panic-in-boston| Boston police].) Something simple, fun and easy to individualize. Why not tell people about the newly energized Baltimore Hacker community?<br />
<br />
== Ambient Orb ==<br />
<br />
==== Examples: ====<br />
<br />
* http://fightpc.blogspot.com/2008/03/arduino-mood-light.html<br />
* http://www.instructables.com/id/Mobius_LED_Lantern/<br />
<br />
==== Parts: ====<br />
<br />
* 1 x Arduino or Clone ~$20-$30<br />
* 1 x Some Sort of Difuser. i.e. Frosted lamp, saran wrap, etc. $0-A lot<br />
* 1+ LED's high or low power<br />
** Low Power LED: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=105<br />
*** Does not require extra parts<br />
** http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8718<br />
*** High Power LED: External power source: http://store.gravitech.us/waadswposu12.html<br />
*** Heatsink<br />
<br />
== Weather Instruments and Networks ==<br />
<br />
Build weather instruments, assemble into a weather station using wifi, etc. Install around Inner Harbor, and "Northwest Harbor" (Canton). Especially wind and waves for sailors. <br />
<br />
Instruments, compare with Ft. McHenry data http://opendap.co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/stations/stationData.jsp?id=8574680 and http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/geo.shtml?location=21201<br />
<br />
Feed data to:<br />
* weather underground http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/index.asp<br />
* Citizen Weather Observer Program http://www.wxqa.com/ and http://www.findu.com/<br />
* NOAA http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/coop/ & other programs<br />
* Local marinas & sailing centers:<br />
** downtownsailing.org<br />
<br />
Installation locations:<br />
* downtownsailing.org at Baltimore Museum of Industry, Riverside/Locust Point.<br />
* Marinas<br />
<br />
===== Display stations =====<br />
Build a small display station with LCD display from salvaged laptop showing wind, waves, sever-weather/radar, etc. for the Inner Harbor. Install at marinas, etc.<br />
<br />
== AM Radio Transmitter ==<br />
You don't need any sort of licensing to broadcast on AM frequencies if your transmitter is 100 milliwatts or less. A transmitter with a basic wire antenna can get 50 to 200 feet of range, however a more substantial outdoor antenna can transmit as far as two miles. I would be interested in setting up an internet radio station and then using multiple transmitters to broadcast that station over AM around Baltimore. The transmitter stations would require enough computing resources to connect to the internet in some way, decode an internet radio stream, and output an audio signal to the AM transmitter. The transmitters themselves can be purchased for about $75-100 dollars, but it's possible we could construct a transmitter from plans for much cheaper. Five to ten well placed transmitters could cover a significant amount Baltimore city. <br />
* [http://www.sstran.com/index.html Transmitter Information]<br />
* [http://www.fcc.gov/lpfm/ Low Power FM (!) alternative] (My understanding is that the Man is not accepting applications for LPFM stations. [[User:Jonlesser|Jonlesser]] 02:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC))<br />
<br />
===== Steps =====<br />
<br />
* Setup a stream<br />
* Build an Arduino/xbee that dials into the stream and outputs audio (I'm don't think an Arduino has the processing power to connect to the internet, decode an audio stream, and provide an analog output. An old laptop or eeepc, which already had network and audio interfaces might be cheap enough to work. [[User:Jonlesser|Jonlesser]] 03:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC))<br />
* Connect audio with AM transmitter<br />
* Build a nice case with antennae(s)<br />
* Replicate and distribute<br />
* Broadcast to the masses<br />
<br />
===== Hacker Radio Broadcast topics =====<br />
<br />
* Freeculture<br />
* DIY discussions<br />
* Copyright law<br />
* Opensource<br />
* Coverage of local events<br />
* Creative Commons music show?<br />
<br />
== Intervention at Baltimore Development Collective's geodesic dome ==<br />
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/artbma/3620589054/ This dome] is a finalist in the Sondheim Artscape Prize. It's located in front of the Baltimore Museum of Art. It is just begging for a techno-art intervention from the Baltimore Node.<br />
<br />
== RFID-tag City Landmarks ==<br />
Enable self-guided walking tours.<br />
<br />
== Veteran's Transponders ==<br />
Hardware and/or software that allows veterans to recognize each other when proximate based on war/battle/unit data.<br />
<br />
== Internet access in the inner city ==<br />
Wireless mesh?<br />
Public Computer Centers ([http://broadbandusa.sc.egov.usda.gov/files/BB%20NOFA%20FINAL%20with%20disclaimer_1.pdf PDF]) - Federal stimulus funds available.</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Things_to_fill_the_Space&diff=311Things to fill the Space2009-07-03T19:44:02Z<p>Roj: /* Things we already have */</p>
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<div>== Things we already have ==<br />
* Soldering Iron - Mark<br />
* Thin Bookshelf - Mark<br />
* CRT Monitor - Mark<br />
* 19" LCD Monitor - Mark<br />
* Apple G4 Tower - Mark<br />
* Small Computer Desk - Mark<br />
* Lockable Server Rack - Mark<br />
* USB Microscope - Intel QX3 - Mark<br />
* Old Serial GPS - Mark*2<br />
* Boxes of old PC power supples - Roj<br />
<br />
== Things we will need to buy ==<br />
* Alligator Clips, Round Test Hooks, Flat Test Tweezers<br />
* Big Ole Spool of Solder<br />
* Bigger Ole Spool of Wire<br />
* Power Supplies - Easy to make from old computer power supply<br />
* Tables - Perhaps Saw Horses and wood to start<br />
<br />
== Things we will like to buy ==<br />
* Laser Cutter</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Bank_Account&diff=299Bank Account2009-07-03T14:44:42Z<p>Roj: </p>
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<div>Suntrust looks good to me: lots of locations and free transactions. If you find a bank that you think offers a better value, add it to this page. -[[User:Jonlesser|Jonlesser]] 06:06, 3 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Is number locations a relevant criterion? Is proximity to a proposed location more important?<br />
* I think having some centrally located branches would be nice. BofA and SunTrust (others?) are walkable from, say the Load of Fun building. -[[User:Jonlesser|Jonlesser]] 06:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
What else do you need from a banking relationship besides a checking account?<br />
* I think all we need is checking. Especially at this stage. -[[User:Jonlesser|Jonlesser]] 06:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Is there any value in a local institution versus a national operation?<br />
* I think the value is a function of convenient location (to Baltimore) and low fees. I don't really care if the bank has branches in other places. We can always changes banks down the road if we find we really need to.-[[User:Jonlesser|Jonlesser]] 06:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Bank !! Account Type !! Check Card !! Monthly Fee !! Min Balance !! Free Transactions !! Free Cash processing? !! Online Banking !! Online Billpayment || Locations !! Notes <br />
|-<br />
| SunTrust || [https://www.suntrust.com/portal/server.pt/community/free_business_checking/936 Free Business Checking] || Yes || $0 || $0 || 150 || $5000 || Yes || Yes || [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=SunTrust&sll=39.312519,-76.613846&sspn=0.079158,0.181789&ie=UTF8&ll=39.314246,-76.613846&spn=0.079156,0.181789&z=13 map] [https://www.suntrust.com/portal/server.pt?space=Redirect&CommunityID=1597&ui_OrigAddress=&ui_OrigCity=&ui_OrigState=Select%20a%20State&ui_OrigZip=21218&ui_Criteria=Branch_Instore list] <br />
|- <br />
| Wachovia || [https://www.wachovia.com/foundation/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=216229dc160aa110VgnVCM1000004b0d1872RCRD Free Business Checking] || Yes || $0 || $0 || 150 || $5000 || Yes || Yes || [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=wachovia&sll=39.305214,-76.608696&sspn=0.075314,0.181789&ie=UTF8&cd=1&ll=39.30973,-76.608696&spn=0.078629,0.181789&z=13 map] [http://wachovia.via.infonow.net/atmbranch/AdvancedSearchAction.do?country=USA&searchCustom__adv=false&searchCustom__locationTypeBranch__IsPresent=TRUE&searchCustom__branchWeekendHoursIsPresent=TRUE&searchCustom__branchExtendedHoursIsPresent=TRUE&searchCustom__branchSafeDepositBoxesIsPresent=TRUE&street1=&city=&stateProvince=&postalCode=21218&searchCustom__locationTypeBranch=BRANCH&mapAndList=listOnly&SEARCH=Search&country=USA list]<br />
|-<br />
| Bank of America || [http://www.bankofamerica.com/small_business/business_checking/index.cfm?template=business_checking Business Checking] || Yes || $0 if Balance over $4000 otherwise $14 || $0 || 100 checks and 20 deposits then 40 cents per check and $1 per deposit || ? || Yes || Yes || [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Bank+of+America&sll=39.314246,-76.613846&sspn=0.079156,0.181789&ie=UTF8&ll=39.314246,-76.613846&spn=0.082476,0.181789&z=13 map]<br />
|-<br />
| M&T || [https://www.mtb.com/business/checking/Pages/FreeBusinessChecking.aspx M&T Free Business Checking] || Yes || $0 || $0 || 75 || ? || Yes || no? || [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=M+and+T+Bank&sll=39.303686,-76.608782&sspn=0.075315,0.181789&ie=UTF8&radius=4.87&rq=1&ll=39.303686,-76.608782&spn=0.075315,0.181789&z=13 map] [http://mandtbank.spatialpoint.com/PrxResults.aspx?&LOC=39.3307529958317%3a-76.6031670135776&CT=39.3307529958317%3a-76.6031670135776%3a5.34379225324107%3a4.0078441899308&DSN=MapPoint.NA&GAD2=&GAD3=21218+%28postal+code%29%2c+Maryland%2c+United+States&IC=39.3307529958317%3a-76.6031670135776%3a32%3a21218+%28postal+code%29%2c+Maryland%2c+United+States&GAD4=USA&locType=A%2cB&FC=&site=&DBR=10 list]<br />
|- <br />
| 1st Mariner || [http://www.1stmarinerbank.com/Business/Business-Checking/Business-Checking-Comparison-Chart.aspx#Business_50 Business 50 Checking] || Yes || $0 || $0 || 50 || ? || No || No || [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1st+Mariner+Bank&sll=39.302026,-76.608696&sspn=0.078638,0.181789&ie=UTF8&z=13 map] [http://www.1stmarinerbank.com/About-Us/ATM-Locator.aspx?Zip=21218 list]<br />
|-<br />
| 1st Mariner || [http://www.1stmarinerbank.com/Business/Business-Checking/Business-Checking-Comparison-Chart.aspx#Business_200 Business 200 Checking] || Yes || $0 if balance over $3500 otherwise $20 || $3500 || 200 || ? || Yes || No || [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1st+Mariner+Bank&sll=39.302026,-76.608696&sspn=0.078638,0.181789&ie=UTF8&z=13 map] [http://www.1stmarinerbank.com/About-Us/ATM-Locator.aspx?Zip=21218 list]<br />
|- <br />
| [http://www.carrolltonbank.com/ Carrollton Bank]<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.theharborbank.com/ Harbor Bank]<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.pnc.com/ PNC Bank]<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.bankatmercantile.com/ Mercantile]<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.bbt.com/ BB&T]<br />
|- <br />
| [http://www.chevychasebank.com/ Chevy Chase]<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.susquehanna.net/ Susquehanna]<br />
|}</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Bank_Account&diff=289Bank Account2009-07-03T06:21:37Z<p>Roj: </p>
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<div>Suntrust looks good to me: lots of locations and free transactions. If you find a bank that offers a better deal, add it to this page. -[[User:Jonlesser|Jonlesser]] 06:06, 3 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Is number locations a relevant criterion? Is proximity to a proposed location more important?<br />
What else do you need from a banking relationship besides a checking account? <br />
Is there any value in a local institution versus a national operation?<br />
<br />
<br />
==== Attributes:====<br />
* '''Website:''' <br />
* '''Check card:''' ''(Like an ATM card, but with a MC or Visa logo and can be used where MC or Visa are accepted, with some exceptions)''<br />
* '''Baltimore locations:''' <br />
* '''Monthly maintenance fee:''' <br />
* '''Minimum Balance:''' <br />
* '''Free transactions per month:''' <br />
* '''Free cash processing:''' <br />
* '''Online banking:''' <br />
* '''Online bill paying:''' <br />
* '''Other:''' <br />
<br />
<br />
== SunTrust ==<br />
* '''Account Name:''' [https://www.suntrust.com/portal/server.pt/community/free_business_checking/936 Free Business Checking]<br />
* '''Check card:''' yes<br />
* '''Baltimore locations:''' [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=SunTrust&sll=39.312519,-76.613846&sspn=0.079158,0.181789&ie=UTF8&ll=39.314246,-76.613846&spn=0.079156,0.181789&z=13 map] [https://www.suntrust.com/portal/server.pt?space=Redirect&CommunityID=1597&ui_OrigAddress=&ui_OrigCity=&ui_OrigState=Select%20a%20State&ui_OrigZip=21218&ui_Criteria=Branch_Instore list]<br />
* '''Monthly maintenance fee:''' $0<br />
* '''Minimum Balance:''' $0<br />
* '''Free transactions per month:''' 150<br />
* '''Free cash processing:''' $5000<br />
* '''Online banking:''' yes<br />
* '''Online bill paying:''' yes <br />
* '''Other:''' <br />
<br />
== Wachovia ==<br />
* '''Account Name:''' [https://www.wachovia.com/foundation/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=216229dc160aa110VgnVCM1000004b0d1872RCRD Free Business Checking]<br />
* '''Check card:''' yes<br />
* '''Baltimore locations:''' [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=wachovia&sll=39.305214,-76.608696&sspn=0.075314,0.181789&ie=UTF8&cd=1&ll=39.30973,-76.608696&spn=0.078629,0.181789&z=13 map] [http://wachovia.via.infonow.net/atmbranch/AdvancedSearchAction.do?country=USA&searchCustom__adv=false&searchCustom__locationTypeBranch__IsPresent=TRUE&searchCustom__branchWeekendHoursIsPresent=TRUE&searchCustom__branchExtendedHoursIsPresent=TRUE&searchCustom__branchSafeDepositBoxesIsPresent=TRUE&street1=&city=&stateProvince=&postalCode=21218&searchCustom__locationTypeBranch=BRANCH&mapAndList=listOnly&SEARCH=Search&country=USA list]<br />
* '''Monthly maintenance fee:''' $0<br />
* '''Minimum Balance:''' $0<br />
* '''Free transactions per month:''' 150<br />
* '''Free cash processing:''' $5000<br />
* '''Online banking:''' yes<br />
* '''Online bill paying:''' yes <br />
* '''Other:''' <br />
<br />
== Bank of America ==<br />
* '''Account Name:''' [http://www.bankofamerica.com/small_business/business_checking/index.cfm?template=business_checking Business Checking]<br />
* '''Check card:''' yes<br />
* '''Baltimore locations:''' [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Bank+of+America&sll=39.314246,-76.613846&sspn=0.079156,0.181789&ie=UTF8&ll=39.314246,-76.613846&spn=0.082476,0.181789&z=13 map]<br />
* '''Monthly maintenance fee:''' $14 unless $4,000 minimum daily balance<br />
* '''Minimum Balance:''' $0<br />
* '''Free transactions per month:''' 100 checks paid and 20 deposits per month<br />
* '''Free cash processing:''' ?<br />
* '''Online banking:''' yes<br />
* '''Online bill paying:''' yes <br />
* '''Other:''' <br />
** Each check paid after the first 100 is 40¢<br />
** Each deposit after the first 20 $1.00<br />
<br />
<br />
== M and T ==<br />
* '''Account Name:''' [https://www.mtb.com/business/checking/Pages/FreeBusinessChecking.aspx M&T Free Business Checking]<br />
* '''Check card:''' yes<br />
* '''Baltimore locations:''' [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=M+and+T+Bank&sll=39.303686,-76.608782&sspn=0.075315,0.181789&ie=UTF8&radius=4.87&rq=1&ll=39.303686,-76.608782&spn=0.075315,0.181789&z=13 map] [http://mandtbank.spatialpoint.com/PrxResults.aspx?&LOC=39.3307529958317%3a-76.6031670135776&CT=39.3307529958317%3a-76.6031670135776%3a5.34379225324107%3a4.0078441899308&DSN=MapPoint.NA&GAD2=&GAD3=21218+%28postal+code%29%2c+Maryland%2c+United+States&IC=39.3307529958317%3a-76.6031670135776%3a32%3a21218+%28postal+code%29%2c+Maryland%2c+United+States&GAD4=USA&locType=A%2cB&FC=&site=&DBR=10 list]<br />
* '''Monthly maintenance fee:''' $0<br />
* '''Minimum Balance:''' $0<br />
* '''Free transactions per month:''' 75<br />
* '''Free cash processing:''' ?<br />
* '''Online banking:''' yes<br />
* '''Online bill paying:''' no? <br />
* '''Other:'''<br />
<br />
== 1st Mariner ==<br />
* '''Account Name:''' [http://www.1stmarinerbank.com/Business/Business-Checking/Business-Checking-Comparison-Chart.aspx#Business_50 M&T Business 50 Checking]<br />
* '''Check card:''' yes<br />
* '''Baltimore locations:''' [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1st+Mariner+Bank&sll=39.302026,-76.608696&sspn=0.078638,0.181789&ie=UTF8&z=13 map] [http://www.1stmarinerbank.com/About-Us/ATM-Locator.aspx?Zip=21218 list]<br />
* '''Monthly maintenance fee:''' $0<br />
* '''Minimum Balance:''' $0<br />
* '''Free transactions per month:''' 50<br />
* '''Free cash processing:''' ?<br />
* '''Online banking:''' no!<br />
* '''Online bill paying:''' no! <br />
* '''Other:'''<br />
<br />
* '''Account Name:''' [http://www.1stmarinerbank.com/Business/Business-Checking/Business-Checking-Comparison-Chart.aspx#Business_200 M&T Business 200 Checking]<br />
* '''Check card:''' yes<br />
* '''Baltimore locations:''' [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1st+Mariner+Bank&sll=39.302026,-76.608696&sspn=0.078638,0.181789&ie=UTF8&z=13 map] [http://www.1stmarinerbank.com/About-Us/ATM-Locator.aspx?Zip=21218 list]<br />
* '''Monthly maintenance fee:''' $20 if minimum balance is no maintained<br />
* '''Minimum Balance:''' $3500<br />
* '''Free transactions per month:''' 200<br />
* '''Free cash processing:''' ?<br />
* '''Online banking:''' yes<br />
* '''Online bill paying:''' no!<br />
* '''Other:'''<br />
<br />
== Carrollton Bank ==<br />
[http://www.carrolltonbank.com/ Carrollton Bank]<br />
<br />
== Harbor Bank ==<br />
[http://www.theharborbank.com/ Harbor Bank]<br />
<br />
== PNC ==<br />
[http://www.pnc.com/ PNC Bank]<br />
<br />
== Mercantile ==<br />
[http://www.bankatmercantile.com/ Mercantile]<br />
<br />
== BB&T ==<br />
[http://www.bbt.com/ BB&T]<br />
<br />
== Chevy Chase ==<br />
[https://www.chevychasebank.com/ Chevy Chase]<br />
<br />
== Susquehanna ==<br />
[http://www.susquehanna.net/ Susquehanna]</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Project_Proposals&diff=226Project Proposals2009-07-02T03:32:25Z<p>Roj: </p>
<hr />
<div>== UAV Project(s) ==<br />
<br />
=== Ardupilot ===<br />
<br />
[http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/ardupilot-main-page Kit]<br />
<br />
==== Parts: ====<br />
<br />
* 1x $25 board that connects to an arduino to control a plane, boat, or car via gps.<br />
* 1x GPS Module $60 <br />
* 1x Optional board to make it compatible with R/C planes.<br />
<br />
=== Blimpduino ===<br />
<br />
[http://store.diydrones.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=KT-0000-01 Kit]<br />
<br />
== Bicycle POV LED ==<br />
<br />
==== Examples: ====<br />
http://www.instructables.com/id/RGBike-POV-Open-project/<br />
<br />
==== Parts: ====<br />
<br />
* 1x ATMega328p / ATMega168 microcontroller<br />
* 1x TLC5940 / TLC5941, 16 PWM Ouput LED driver<br />
* 16x Superflux RGB LEDs<br />
* 1x A3213<br />
* 3x PN2222, NPN transistors<br />
* Assorted resistors, capacitors, tact switches and connectors (check schematic and board layout)<br />
<br />
== Gorilla Marketing ==<br />
HonFest marks the beginning of the festival season. While its too late to get booth at any of these events its not too late to make our presence known. What if we had a workshop where we made some sort of gorilla marketing device. One way to go would be some sort electronic apparel, like an ambient orb hat or some kind of musical shirt, etc. Or it could follow examples of other gorilla marketers like the [http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/about.php|chalk printing bicycle] or a flashing LED signs (WARNING: Not sure if the Baltimore police are as reactionary as the [http://laughingsquid.com/aqua-teen-hunger-force-promo-causes-panic-in-boston| Boston police].) Something simple, fun and easy to individualize. Why not tell people about the newly energized Baltimore Hacker community?<br />
<br />
== Ambient Orb ==<br />
<br />
==== Examples: ====<br />
<br />
* http://fightpc.blogspot.com/2008/03/arduino-mood-light.html<br />
* http://www.instructables.com/id/Mobius_LED_Lantern/<br />
<br />
==== Parts: ====<br />
<br />
* 1 x Arduino or Clone ~$20-$30<br />
* 1 x Some Sort of Difuser. i.e. Frosted lamp, saran wrap, etc. $0-A lot<br />
* 1+ LED's high or low power<br />
** Low Power LED: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=105<br />
*** Does not require extra parts<br />
** http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8718<br />
*** High Power LED: External power source: http://store.gravitech.us/waadswposu12.html<br />
*** Heatsink<br />
<br />
== Weather Instruments and Networks ==<br />
<br />
Build weather instruments, assemble into a weather station using wifi, etc. Install around Inner Harbor, and "Northwest Harbor" (Canton). Especially wind and waves for sailors. <br />
<br />
Instruments, compare with Ft. McHenry data http://opendap.co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/stations/stationData.jsp?id=8574680 and http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/geo.shtml?location=21201<br />
<br />
Feed data to:<br />
* weather underground http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/index.asp<br />
* Citizen Weather Observer Program http://www.wxqa.com/ and http://www.findu.com/<br />
* NOAA http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/coop/ & other programs<br />
* Local marinas & sailing centers:<br />
** downtownsailing.org<br />
<br />
Installation locations:<br />
* downtownsailing.org at Baltimore Museum of Industry, Riverside/Locust Point.<br />
* Marinas<br />
<br />
===== Display stations =====<br />
Build a small display station with LCD display from salvaged laptop showing wind, waves, sever-weather/radar, etc. for the Inner Harbor. Install at marinas, etc.<br />
<br />
== AM Radio Transmitter ==<br />
You don't need any sort of licensing to broadcast on AM frequencies if your transmitter is 100 milliwatts or less. A transmitter with a basic wire antenna can get 50 to 200 feet of range, however a more substantial outdoor antenna can transmit as far as two miles. I would be interested in setting up an internet radio station and then using multiple transmitters to broadcast that station over AM around Baltimore. The transmitter stations would require enough computing resources to connect to the internet in some way, decode an internet radio stream, and output an audio signal to the AM transmitter. The transmitters themselves can be purchased for about $75-100 dollars, but it's possible we could construct a transmitter from plans for much cheaper. Five to ten well placed transmitters could cover a significant amount Baltimore city. <br />
* [http://www.sstran.com/index.html Transmitter Information]<br />
* [http://www.fcc.gov/lpfm/ Low Power FM (!) alternative] (My understanding is that the Man is not accepting applications for LPFM stations. [[User:Jonlesser|Jonlesser]] 02:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC))<br />
<br />
===== Steps =====<br />
<br />
* Setup a stream<br />
* Build an Arduino/xbee that dials into the stream and outputs audio (I'm don't think an Arduino has the processing power to connect to the internet, decode an audio stream, and provide an analog output. An old laptop or eeepc, which already had network and audio interfaces might be cheap enough to work. [[User:Jonlesser|Jonlesser]] 03:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC))<br />
* Connect audio with AM transmitter<br />
* Build a nice case with antennae(s)<br />
* Replicate and distribute<br />
* Broadcast to the masses<br />
<br />
===== Hacker Radio Broadcast topics =====<br />
<br />
* Freeculture<br />
* DIY discussions<br />
* Copyright law<br />
* Opensource<br />
* Coverage of local events<br />
* Creative Commons music show?<br />
<br />
== Intervention at Baltimore Development Collective's geodesic dome ==<br />
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/artbma/3620589054/ This dome] is a finalist in the Sondheim Artscape Prize. It's located in front of the Baltimore Museum of Art. It is just begging for a techno-art intervention from the Baltimore Node.<br />
<br />
== RFID-tag City Landmarks ==<br />
Enable self-guided walking tours.<br />
<br />
== Veteran's Transponders ==<br />
Hardware and/or software that allows veterans to recognize each other when proximate based on war/battle/unit data.</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=225Finding a space2009-07-02T03:16:34Z<p>Roj: /* Possible Leads */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. Adjacent to the Waxter Center, which may be [http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/pressDetail.aspx?id=129 redeveloped] || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=501(c)(3)_process&diff=224501(c)(3) process2009-07-02T03:06:13Z<p>Roj: /* The process */</p>
<hr />
<div>501(c)(3) is a tax-exempt designation from the IRS which generally applies to nonprofit organizations. 501(c)(3) refers to that section of the tax code, found at [http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/501(c).html 26 U.S.C. § 501].<br />
<br />
Being a 501(c)(3) has the following benefits (copied from the interwebs)<br />
* We won't pay federal corporate income tax except on income derived from unrelated business income. With this exemption, an organization can save 15% - 35% of its taxable income. <br />
* In most instances, we won't pay state corporate income, franchise, excise, use, or sales tax.<br />
* Can offer members, individuals, and corporate donors a tax deduction for their contributions. <br />
* Eligible to receive private foundation grants. Private foundations are required by law to distribute a minimum amount of money for charitable purposes. One way they fulfill this obligation is by making grants to 501(c)(3) public charities.<br />
* Eligible for lower postal rates on third class bulk mailings through the US Postal Service. <br />
<br />
== The process ==<br />
These steps are cribbed from an email from Sublesky. Mike also recommended [http://www.amazon.com/How-Form-Nonprofit-Corporation-Your/dp/1413310265 How to Form your Own Nonprofit] (This appears to be a brand new edition published June 8, 2009. Talk about hot off the press!). Official IRS information is [http://www.irs.gov/publications/p557/ch03.html here].<br />
# Decide who the board of directors is (these are the people who have responsibility for fiscal oversight of the corporation)<br />
# Come up with an appropriate mission statement (you need this for the paperwork to come, plus it's obviously a good idea to get everyone on the same page about what you're trying to do)<br />
# Decide who the officers are (President, VP, Treasurer, Secretary) -- make sure the Treasurer is someone who is good at bookkeeping, can run Quickbooks or the like without screwing things up<br />
# File incorporation papers with the state of Maryland. The application fee is $170.<br />
# Apply for an Employer Identification Number (EIN) so we can open a bank account<br />
# File 501(c)3 application with the IRS (pretty time consuming but worth it). The application fee depends on the anticipated revenue. We are anticipating the fee to be $750.<br />
# In a few months you'll get a letter back from the IRS authorizing you to be a nonprofit for five years<br />
# At the end of five years you have to prove that you are really a charitable organization (they have a few tests they apply to your financial records)<br />
<br />
According to the IRS: [http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=169727,00.html Life Cycle of an Exempt Organization] - or, more specifically: [http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=122670,00.html Life Cycle of a Public Charity]:<br />
<br />
===Organizing documents===<br />
The trust instrument, corporate charter, articles of incorporation, articles of association, or other written instrument by which the organization is created under state law.<br />
<br />
[http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=123368,00.html Required provisions:] <br />
* must limit the organization's purposes to one or more of the exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3) and must not expressly empower it to engage, other than as an insubstantial part of its activities, in activities that are not in furtherance of one or more of those purposes.<br />
**Apparently-relevant exempt purposes per 501(c)(3): charitable, scientific, and educational<br />
* assets of an organization must be permanently dedicated to an exempt purpose. ... the organizing document should contain a provision insuring their distribution for an exempt purpose in the event of dissolution.<br />
<br />
== Forms / paperwork ==<br />
[http://www.dat.state.md.us/sdatweb/ex_corp_form.pdf Maryland Tax-Exempt Non-Profit Corporation Form], [http://www.dat.state.md.us/ Maryland Department of Assessments and Taxation]<br />
This form is for creating a tax-exempt corporation in the state of Maryland. It includes some basics steps that need to be completed.</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Structure_and_organization&diff=220Structure and organization2009-07-02T03:04:25Z<p>Roj: /* 501(c)(3) */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Formalizing our structure ==<br />
It seems that if we are going to accept money and rent property we are going to have to formalize our structure somehow. Maybe we should look at the pros and cons of some of these options. Also by incorporating in some fashion we reduce the liability each of us faces for being associated with the group.<br />
=== 501(c)(3) ===<br />
501(c)(3) is an IRS-bestowed federal tax-exempt status for non-profit organizations. [[501(c)(3) process|A separate page exists]] to discuss how to go about getting that tax-exempt status.<br />
[http://www.irs.gov/publications/p557/ch03.html IRS Publication 557]<br />
<br />
===== Steps via Mike S. =====<br />
<br />
* Decide who the board of directors is (these are the people who have responsibility for fiscal oversight of the corporation)<br />
<br />
* Come up with an appropriate mission statement (you need this for the paperwork to come, plus it's obviously a good idea to get everyone on the same page about what you're trying to do)<br />
<br />
* Decide who the officers are (President, VP, Treasurer, Secretary) -- make sure the Treasurer is someone who is good at bookkeeping, can run Quickbooks or the like without screwing things up<br />
<br />
* File incorporation papers with the state of Maryland<br />
<br />
* File 501(c)3 application with the IRS (pretty time consuming but worth it)<br />
<br />
* In a few months you'll get a letter back from the IRS authorizing you to be a nonprofit for five years<br />
<br />
* At the end of five years you have to prove that you are really a charitable organization (they have a few tests they apply to your financial records)<br />
<br />
==== Pros ====<br />
* Donations can be deducted from taxes.<br />
* Don't have to pay federal taxes.<br />
==== Cons ====<br />
*Process takes awhile (IANAL, but I understand you need to be operating for a year before you can apply)<br />
<br />
=== Incorporation===<br />
We have to incorporate in some manner in order to get 501(c)(3) designation. Maryland state forms available [http://www.dat.state.md.us/sdatweb/sdatforms.html#entity here]. Seems likely we will want to incorporate as a non-stock tax-exempt corporation.<br />
* LLC structure is an alternative. LLCs can obtain 501(c)3 status.<br />
<br />
==== Pros ====<br />
* Fast<br />
==== Cons ====<br />
* No tax benefits. (Not necessarily - may incorporate as a tax-exempt corporation.)<br />
<br />
=== Fiscal Sponsorship from Fusion Group ===<br />
The Fusion Group is a 501(3)(c) that acts as a [http://www.fusiongroup.org/fiscalsponsor_001.htm fiscal sponsor]. From their website, "Fiscal sponsorship offers a great advantage for those who are launching new endeavors, where the long-term viability of the project is yet to be determined. Operating under a fiscal sponsor allows community leaders to begin programs and services for a trial or incubation period prior to deciding to file for independent incorporation." The [http://www.fusiongroup.org/application.htm application process] looks pretty straight forward and there are lots of other [http://www.fusiongroup.org/programs.html Baltimore-based groups] using their services, including the [http://www.redemmas.org/2640/ 2640 project].<br />
==== Pros ====<br />
* Easy application<br />
* We can take tax exempt contributions, apply for certain grants<br />
* We'd probably get some financial guidance and other resources from the Fusion Group<br />
==== Cons ====<br />
* We'll need to be accepted into their program, which is not guaranteed<br />
* 5%-10% of grants and donations are paid to Fusion to cover their administrative costs<br />
* Requires initial fee of $250 for five hours of Fusion consultation if application is approved<br />
<br />
=== Potential Affiliation ===<br />
* [http://www.artistcommunities.org/ Alliance of Artists Communities]<br />
* [http://www.fracturedatlas.org/ Fractured Atlas]<br />
<br />
== Services for accepting Money ==<br />
Member can conveniently go into credit card debt paying their dues thanks to these online services. All of these allow recurring billing, handle invoicing, etc. If we end up working with the Fusion Group, they might have their own methods for collecting money. <br />
* [https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/business?sn=paynow/subscription Amazon Simple Pay Subscriptions] is free through Sept. 2009, then costs 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction<br />
* [https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_wp-standard-overview-outside Paypal] costs 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction.<br />
* [https://checkout.google.com/sell Google Checkout] costs 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction.<br />
<br />
== Notes from Design Pattern on organization ==<br />
Here is a translation of the orginazational section of the [http://hackerspaces.org/Hacker-Space-Design-Patterns.pdf hackerspace design pattern], posted here so that we can edit/comment on them for our space. [http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Documentation hackerspaces.org] has a number of good resources to look over, including bylaws and regulations of other hacker spaces around the country. <br />
<br />
=== The Plenum Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ====<br />
You want to resolve internal conflicts, exercise democratic decision <br />
making, and discuss recent issues and future plans. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Have a regular meeting with all members, if possible. Have an <br />
agenda and set goals. Make people commit themselves to tasks. <br />
Write down minutes of the meeting and post them on a mailing <br />
list and/or Wiki. Go for the only date that works: once a week. <br />
Weird dates like “first full-moon after the third Friday” will never <br />
work. Likewise, every other week or anything similar won’t work <br />
either. <br />
<br />
=== The Tuesday Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ====<br />
Every weekday sucks. You will not find any day when every hacker <br />
can attend a meeting. Someone always has an appointment. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Meet on Tuesday. Since all days are equally bad, just pick <br />
Tuesday. End of discussion.<br />
<br />
=== The OpenChaos Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ==== <br />
You want to draw in new people and provide an interface to the <br />
outside world. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Have a monthly, public, and open lecture, talk or workshop. <br />
Announce it at your local time (no UTC, CEST, EST or something <br />
else). Invite interesting visitors to your regular meetings and don’t <br />
tell the weirdos. <br />
<br />
=== The U23 Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ====<br />
Your older members graduate from college or get married. Your <br />
space needs fresh blood. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Recruit young people through a challenge you set up for them, in <br />
the form of a course that spans several weeks. Overwhelm them <br />
with problems from hardware and software hacking and let them <br />
solve them in teams. Prepare for the challenge and tutor them, <br />
but give them room to experiment. Retire after the team building <br />
and let the smartest of the young ones run the space.<br />
<br />
=== The Sine Curve Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ====<br />
You did everything right. You had some big events and a nice time <br />
in your shiny hacker space. But after some time the enthusiasm <br />
goes away and your projects are stagnating. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Peak enthusiasm at a hacker space has the form of a sine curve <br />
with a cycle duration of four years. Keep the hacker space <br />
running, even if the feel-good factor is temporarily on holiday. <br />
Chances are good that your space will be awesome again in two <br />
years. Don’t give up! Maybe an exciting new member will knock <br />
on your door tomorrow.</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Mo_money...&diff=218Mo money...2009-07-02T03:02:30Z<p>Roj: /* Revenue */</p>
<hr />
<div>We should start to outline what it will take a)get this place going b)keep this place going.<br />
<br />
==In the bank==<br />
<br />
==Expenses==<br />
===Startup===<br />
* '''$170''' (+$50 to expedite) Incorporating in the state of Maryland <br />
* '''$750?''' Filing for 501(c)3 status with the IRS (unsure on this number)<br />
* '''$?''' Furniture (probably mostly donations)<br />
* '''$?''' We should have some basic equipment on hand for people to use and for workshops + donations/loans from members.<br />
<br />
===Operating===<br />
A good rule of thumb would be to have 3 months operating in the bank at any given time.<br />
* '''$600 - $2000''' Rent<br />
* '''$150 - $450''' Utilities<br />
* '''$60 annually''' PO Box<br />
* '''$1000+ annually''' Insurance (to indemnify leadership & members). I found a quote of [https://www.fracturedatlas.org/site/faq/c/General+Liability/67 $350 and up for general liability] and [https://www.fracturedatlas.org/site/faq/q/Directors%20and%20Officers%20Insurance%20%28D%26O%29/414 $650 and up for D and O] (directors and officers) insurance annually.<br />
<br />
==Revenue==<br />
<br />
=== Dues ===<br />
Add your name here if you are willing to commit to being a member at this point. This will help us estimate our initial monthly revenues. Put the maximum amount you would be willing to pay for dues in parenthesis after your name. This will help us find the sweet spot for monthly dues, which may end up being less than you're willing to pay!<br />
* Jon Lesser ($75)<br />
* Sylvia Chi ($50)<br />
* Adam Bachman ($75)<br />
* Kelly Egan ($100)<br />
<br />
=== Donations ===<br />
If you are willing and able to make a donation to the Node, add your name here along with the amount. The donations will go to things like security deposit, incorporation fees, supplies, equipment, outreach, and other '''non-recurring costs'''. Donations will likely be tax deductible if we get our initial 501(c)(3) letter from the IRS this year.<br />
* Jon Lesser ($500)<br />
* Adam Bachman ($300)<br />
* Kelly Egan ($300)<br />
<br />
=== Training/Education ===<br />
Revenue from classes and specific vocational training.<br />
<br />
=== Kits ===<br />
Develop projects with "Make"-ability in mind, and provide retail parts-and-instructions kits.<br />
<br />
== Useful links ==<br />
* [http://www.meyerfoundation.org/whatwefund/nonprofit_sector_fund/cash_flow_loan/primer Cash flow]</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Structure_and_organization&diff=217Structure and organization2009-07-02T02:55:27Z<p>Roj: /* Incorporation */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Formalizing our structure ==<br />
It seems that if we are going to accept money and rent property we are going to have to formalize our structure somehow. Maybe we should look at the pros and cons of some of these options. Also by incorporating in some fashion we reduce the liability each of us faces for being associated with the group.<br />
=== 501(c)(3) ===<br />
501(c)(3) is an IRS-bestowed federal tax-exempt status for non-profit organizations. [[501(c)(3) process|A separate page exists]] to discuss how to go about getting that tax-exempt status.<br />
<br />
===== Steps via Mike S. =====<br />
<br />
* Decide who the board of directors is (these are the people who have responsibility for fiscal oversight of the corporation)<br />
<br />
* Come up with an appropriate mission statement (you need this for the paperwork to come, plus it's obviously a good idea to get everyone on the same page about what you're trying to do)<br />
<br />
* Decide who the officers are (President, VP, Treasurer, Secretary) -- make sure the Treasurer is someone who is good at bookkeeping, can run Quickbooks or the like without screwing things up<br />
<br />
* File incorporation papers with the state of Maryland<br />
<br />
* File 501(c)3 application with the IRS (pretty time consuming but worth it)<br />
<br />
* In a few months you'll get a letter back from the IRS authorizing you to be a nonprofit for five years<br />
<br />
* At the end of five years you have to prove that you are really a charitable organization (they have a few tests they apply to your financial records)<br />
<br />
==== Pros ====<br />
* Donations can be deducted from taxes.<br />
* Don't have to pay federal taxes.<br />
==== Cons ====<br />
*Process takes awhile (IANAL, but I understand you need to be operating for a year before you can apply)<br />
=== Incorporation===<br />
We have to incorporate in some manner in order to get 501(c)(3) designation. Maryland state forms available [http://www.dat.state.md.us/sdatweb/sdatforms.html#entity here]. Seems likely we will want to incorporate as a non-stock tax-exempt corporation.<br />
* LLC structure is an alternative. LLCs can obtain 501(c)3 status.<br />
<br />
==== Pros ====<br />
* Fast<br />
==== Cons ====<br />
* No tax benefits. (Not necessarily - may incorporate as a tax-exempt corporation.)<br />
<br />
=== Fiscal Sponsorship from Fusion Group ===<br />
The Fusion Group is a 501(3)(c) that acts as a [http://www.fusiongroup.org/fiscalsponsor_001.htm fiscal sponsor]. From their website, "Fiscal sponsorship offers a great advantage for those who are launching new endeavors, where the long-term viability of the project is yet to be determined. Operating under a fiscal sponsor allows community leaders to begin programs and services for a trial or incubation period prior to deciding to file for independent incorporation." The [http://www.fusiongroup.org/application.htm application process] looks pretty straight forward and there are lots of other [http://www.fusiongroup.org/programs.html Baltimore-based groups] using their services, including the [http://www.redemmas.org/2640/ 2640 project].<br />
==== Pros ====<br />
* Easy application<br />
* We can take tax exempt contributions, apply for certain grants<br />
* We'd probably get some financial guidance and other resources from the Fusion Group<br />
==== Cons ====<br />
* We'll need to be accepted into their program, which is not guaranteed<br />
* 5%-10% of grants and donations are paid to Fusion to cover their administrative costs<br />
* Requires initial fee of $250 for five hours of Fusion consultation if application is approved<br />
<br />
=== Potential Affiliation ===<br />
* [http://www.artistcommunities.org/ Alliance of Artists Communities]<br />
* [http://www.fracturedatlas.org/ Fractured Atlas]<br />
<br />
== Services for accepting Money ==<br />
Member can conveniently go into credit card debt paying their dues thanks to these online services. All of these allow recurring billing, handle invoicing, etc. If we end up working with the Fusion Group, they might have their own methods for collecting money. <br />
* [https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/business?sn=paynow/subscription Amazon Simple Pay Subscriptions] is free through Sept. 2009, then costs 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction<br />
* [https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_wp-standard-overview-outside Paypal] costs 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction.<br />
* [https://checkout.google.com/sell Google Checkout] costs 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction.<br />
<br />
== Notes from Design Pattern on organization ==<br />
Here is a translation of the orginazational section of the [http://hackerspaces.org/Hacker-Space-Design-Patterns.pdf hackerspace design pattern], posted here so that we can edit/comment on them for our space. [http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Documentation hackerspaces.org] has a number of good resources to look over, including bylaws and regulations of other hacker spaces around the country. <br />
<br />
=== The Plenum Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ====<br />
You want to resolve internal conflicts, exercise democratic decision <br />
making, and discuss recent issues and future plans. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Have a regular meeting with all members, if possible. Have an <br />
agenda and set goals. Make people commit themselves to tasks. <br />
Write down minutes of the meeting and post them on a mailing <br />
list and/or Wiki. Go for the only date that works: once a week. <br />
Weird dates like “first full-moon after the third Friday” will never <br />
work. Likewise, every other week or anything similar won’t work <br />
either. <br />
<br />
=== The Tuesday Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ====<br />
Every weekday sucks. You will not find any day when every hacker <br />
can attend a meeting. Someone always has an appointment. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Meet on Tuesday. Since all days are equally bad, just pick <br />
Tuesday. End of discussion.<br />
<br />
=== The OpenChaos Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ==== <br />
You want to draw in new people and provide an interface to the <br />
outside world. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Have a monthly, public, and open lecture, talk or workshop. <br />
Announce it at your local time (no UTC, CEST, EST or something <br />
else). Invite interesting visitors to your regular meetings and don’t <br />
tell the weirdos. <br />
<br />
=== The U23 Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ====<br />
Your older members graduate from college or get married. Your <br />
space needs fresh blood. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Recruit young people through a challenge you set up for them, in <br />
the form of a course that spans several weeks. Overwhelm them <br />
with problems from hardware and software hacking and let them <br />
solve them in teams. Prepare for the challenge and tutor them, <br />
but give them room to experiment. Retire after the team building <br />
and let the smartest of the young ones run the space.<br />
<br />
=== The Sine Curve Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ====<br />
You did everything right. You had some big events and a nice time <br />
in your shiny hacker space. But after some time the enthusiasm <br />
goes away and your projects are stagnating. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Peak enthusiasm at a hacker space has the form of a sine curve <br />
with a cycle duration of four years. Keep the hacker space <br />
running, even if the feel-good factor is temporarily on holiday. <br />
Chances are good that your space will be awesome again in two <br />
years. Don’t give up! Maybe an exciting new member will knock <br />
on your door tomorrow.</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Structure_and_organization&diff=215Structure and organization2009-07-02T02:51:16Z<p>Roj: /* Formalizing our structure */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Formalizing our structure ==<br />
It seems that if we are going to accept money and rent property we are going to have to formalize our structure somehow. Maybe we should look at the pros and cons of some of these options. Also by incorporating in some fashion we reduce the liability each of us faces for being associated with the group.<br />
=== 501(c)(3) ===<br />
501(c)(3) is an IRS-bestowed federal tax-exempt status for non-profit organizations. [[501(c)(3) process|A separate page exists]] to discuss how to go about getting that tax-exempt status.<br />
<br />
===== Steps via Mike S. =====<br />
<br />
* Decide who the board of directors is (these are the people who have responsibility for fiscal oversight of the corporation)<br />
<br />
* Come up with an appropriate mission statement (you need this for the paperwork to come, plus it's obviously a good idea to get everyone on the same page about what you're trying to do)<br />
<br />
* Decide who the officers are (President, VP, Treasurer, Secretary) -- make sure the Treasurer is someone who is good at bookkeeping, can run Quickbooks or the like without screwing things up<br />
<br />
* File incorporation papers with the state of Maryland<br />
<br />
* File 501(c)3 application with the IRS (pretty time consuming but worth it)<br />
<br />
* In a few months you'll get a letter back from the IRS authorizing you to be a nonprofit for five years<br />
<br />
* At the end of five years you have to prove that you are really a charitable organization (they have a few tests they apply to your financial records)<br />
<br />
==== Pros ====<br />
* Donations can be deducted from taxes.<br />
* Don't have to pay federal taxes.<br />
==== Cons ====<br />
*Process takes awhile (IANAL, but I understand you need to be operating for a year before you can apply)<br />
=== Incorporation===<br />
We have to incorporate in some manner in order to get 501(c)(3) designation. Maryland state forms available [http://www.dat.state.md.us/sdatweb/sdatforms.html#entity here]. Seems likely we will want to incorporate as a non-stock tax-exempt corporation.<br />
==== Pros ====<br />
* Fast<br />
==== Cons ====<br />
* No tax benefits. (Not necessarily - may incorporate as a tax-exempt corporation.)<br />
<br />
=== Fiscal Sponsorship from Fusion Group ===<br />
The Fusion Group is a 501(3)(c) that acts as a [http://www.fusiongroup.org/fiscalsponsor_001.htm fiscal sponsor]. From their website, "Fiscal sponsorship offers a great advantage for those who are launching new endeavors, where the long-term viability of the project is yet to be determined. Operating under a fiscal sponsor allows community leaders to begin programs and services for a trial or incubation period prior to deciding to file for independent incorporation." The [http://www.fusiongroup.org/application.htm application process] looks pretty straight forward and there are lots of other [http://www.fusiongroup.org/programs.html Baltimore-based groups] using their services, including the [http://www.redemmas.org/2640/ 2640 project].<br />
==== Pros ====<br />
* Easy application<br />
* We can take tax exempt contributions, apply for certain grants<br />
* We'd probably get some financial guidance and other resources from the Fusion Group<br />
==== Cons ====<br />
* We'll need to be accepted into their program, which is not guaranteed<br />
* 5%-10% of grants and donations are paid to Fusion to cover their administrative costs<br />
* Requires initial fee of $250 for five hours of Fusion consultation if application is approved<br />
<br />
=== Potential Affiliation ===<br />
* [http://www.artistcommunities.org/ Alliance of Artists Communities]<br />
* [http://www.fracturedatlas.org/ Fractured Atlas]<br />
<br />
== Services for accepting Money ==<br />
Member can conveniently go into credit card debt paying their dues thanks to these online services. All of these allow recurring billing, handle invoicing, etc. If we end up working with the Fusion Group, they might have their own methods for collecting money. <br />
* [https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/business?sn=paynow/subscription Amazon Simple Pay Subscriptions] is free through Sept. 2009, then costs 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction<br />
* [https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_wp-standard-overview-outside Paypal] costs 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction.<br />
* [https://checkout.google.com/sell Google Checkout] costs 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction.<br />
<br />
== Notes from Design Pattern on organization ==<br />
Here is a translation of the orginazational section of the [http://hackerspaces.org/Hacker-Space-Design-Patterns.pdf hackerspace design pattern], posted here so that we can edit/comment on them for our space. [http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Documentation hackerspaces.org] has a number of good resources to look over, including bylaws and regulations of other hacker spaces around the country. <br />
<br />
=== The Plenum Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ====<br />
You want to resolve internal conflicts, exercise democratic decision <br />
making, and discuss recent issues and future plans. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Have a regular meeting with all members, if possible. Have an <br />
agenda and set goals. Make people commit themselves to tasks. <br />
Write down minutes of the meeting and post them on a mailing <br />
list and/or Wiki. Go for the only date that works: once a week. <br />
Weird dates like “first full-moon after the third Friday” will never <br />
work. Likewise, every other week or anything similar won’t work <br />
either. <br />
<br />
=== The Tuesday Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ====<br />
Every weekday sucks. You will not find any day when every hacker <br />
can attend a meeting. Someone always has an appointment. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Meet on Tuesday. Since all days are equally bad, just pick <br />
Tuesday. End of discussion.<br />
<br />
=== The OpenChaos Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ==== <br />
You want to draw in new people and provide an interface to the <br />
outside world. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Have a monthly, public, and open lecture, talk or workshop. <br />
Announce it at your local time (no UTC, CEST, EST or something <br />
else). Invite interesting visitors to your regular meetings and don’t <br />
tell the weirdos. <br />
<br />
=== The U23 Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ====<br />
Your older members graduate from college or get married. Your <br />
space needs fresh blood. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Recruit young people through a challenge you set up for them, in <br />
the form of a course that spans several weeks. Overwhelm them <br />
with problems from hardware and software hacking and let them <br />
solve them in teams. Prepare for the challenge and tutor them, <br />
but give them room to experiment. Retire after the team building <br />
and let the smartest of the young ones run the space.<br />
<br />
=== The Sine Curve Pattern ===<br />
==== Problem ====<br />
You did everything right. You had some big events and a nice time <br />
in your shiny hacker space. But after some time the enthusiasm <br />
goes away and your projects are stagnating. <br />
==== Implementation ====<br />
Peak enthusiasm at a hacker space has the form of a sine curve <br />
with a cycle duration of four years. Keep the hacker space <br />
running, even if the feel-good factor is temporarily on holiday. <br />
Chances are good that your space will be awesome again in two <br />
years. Don’t give up! Maybe an exciting new member will knock <br />
on your door tomorrow.</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Finding_a_space&diff=214Finding a space2009-07-02T02:45:21Z<p>Roj: /* Ideal locations */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Search criteria ==<br />
=== Price range ===<br />
=== Ideal locations ===<br />
[http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/uploads/materials/ez_map.pdf Baltimore City Enterprise Zones PDF]<br />
<br />
=== Must have ===<br />
<br />
What are our power requirements?<br />
<br />
Bathroom facilities?<br />
<br />
Security:<br />
* Windows either covered or up a level<br />
* A strong door with a solid lock<br />
<br />
=== Nice to have ===<br />
* 2,000 to 25,000 square feet stand-alone, zoned for mixed use. <br />
* Target of $0.50 to $1.00 per square foot total monthly cost. <br />
* Heavy power (400 amps or more, 3-phase).<br />
* Open flex floor plan.<br />
* Fenced back yard or secured side area for working on large projects.<br />
* Secured storage.<br />
* Roll-up door from yard into building for vehicle projects.<br />
* Nice enough area that a parent would drop off their children for classes, and feel safe if we offered intro to electronics projects classes.<br />
<br />
=== Can't have ===<br />
<br />
* Heavy lead paint<br />
* Asbestos<br />
* Limited ventilation options<br />
* No working plumbing<br />
<br />
=== Legal / insurance / zoning considerations ===<br />
??<br />
<br />
=== Location types ===<br />
* '''Garages''' — Garage bays are very cheap, have large doors, and offer modular space. It might be possible to lease several neighboring garages for additional space. On the other hand, there is unlikely to be running water or bathroom facilities and heating/cooling could be problematic. <br />
* '''Store front''' — A store front would give us more visibility in the community, be easy to find, and invite passersby to see what we're up to. The price per square foot is likely to be higher than other location types.<br />
* '''Residential home''' — An entire town house would yield a lot of space with a kitchen and bathroom facilities. Neighbors might be upset with noise and lot of activity around the space. Wood and metal working could do damage to a residential interior. <br />
* '''Warehouse''' — Lots of cheap space where we can be noisy and messy. Bathrooms and plumbing could be dodgy and kitchens are unlikely. Warehouses tend to be out the way and more difficult to find for people unfamiliar with the location.<br />
<br />
== Possible Leads ==<br />
[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=39.299901,-76.600456&spn=0.08515,0.149345&z=13&msid=101661131790577219614.00046d47797965d0951c2 Google Map showing all leads] (Anyone can add markers to this map, try to keep it in sync with the table below)<br />
<br />
{| class="sortable" border="1"<br />
|+Sortable table<br />
|-<br />
! Address !! Contact Info !! Description !! Square feet !! Monthly rent !! price / square foot (monthly) !! Links !! Contacted by us?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=463+E+33rd+Street+21218&sll=39.328322,-76.609855&sspn=0.011419,0.020664&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=39.328322,-76.609704&spn=0.011419,0.020664&z=16&iwloc=A= 463 E 33rd Street 21218] (Charles Village) || Mr. David (410-653-0900) || Former Blockbuster, so one big room. || 4133 || $4000 || $0.97 || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2980+Falls+road&sll=39.326845,-76.614532&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.324853,-76.623867&spn=0.04256,0.074673&z=14 2980 Falls road] (Hampden/Remington) || Krauss Real Property Brokerage (410-329-9898) || There are some leasers (squatters?) there now. Nice location on a bike route. Right above [http://www.myspace.com/ruintown Ruintown] and below an artist studio|| 1300 || 1300 || $1.00 || [http://www.heidikrauss.com/address.php?property_ID=137&kind=1 pics] || No<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3500+Ash+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21211&sll=39.326735,-76.614529&sspn=0.01064,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FR8cWAIdkZFu-w&split=0&z=16 3500 Ash Street] || Preller Properties 410-235-7891 || There's a big banner hanging on the building advertising Industrial/Commercial space. Preller Properties / Hilltop Mgt. has a few sites in Hampden that might be interesting. Left fairly generic message 6/29/09. || 1000 - 5000 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=920+Cathedral+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21201&sll=39.328858,-76.63966&sspn=0.010639,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FcatVwIdC-hu-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 920 Cathedral Street]|| Mandy Lippman mandylippman@gmail.com 301-770-2007 office 301-770-0898 cell || two story, 5 bay garage, townhouses, parking spaces. Buildings are in "rough shape", Mandy is interested in doing a deal. Garage space or attached row houses are both possibilities. Said $1000 might be a little low, but would consider $1500 for two story garage space, potential for splitting with other groups. || 8800 || ? || ? || ? || Yes (Avery Boyce)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=720+S+Montford+Ave,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21224&sll=39.30055,-76.617717&sspn=0.010644,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FatqVwIdK3Bv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 720 S Montford ave] || April Love Raimond, Prudential Carruthers Realtors 443-474-4404 || For sale (Guessing South, not North -JL) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1534+Fleet+St.&sll=39.283371,-76.582869&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284207,-76.589255&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 1534 Fleet St.] || meatP Real Estate info@meatp.com 443-630-9507 || Three Floors (1000 sq/ft per floor) || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3205+Fait+Ave&sll=39.284207,-76.589255&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&ll=39.283692,-76.576209&spn=0.010646,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=A 3205 Fait Ave] || 410-935-2817 || For sale || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,+fleet+street,+baltimore&sll=39.470094,-76.783911&sspn=1.475675,1.955566&ie=UTF8&ll=39.284423,-76.596766&spn=0.046238,0.061111&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.284401,-76.596935&panoid=80Q_ZwVT6ZOawLiAqkJg-Q&cbp=12,0,,0,5 1442 Fleet St.] || 410-866-8088 || Fells Point Futon Factory. Zoned M3 || 15000 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=432+E+32nd+St,+Baltimore,+Baltimore+City,+Maryland+21218&sll=39.283692,-76.576209&sspn=0.010646,0.018668&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZsWWAIdIgZv-w&split=0&z=16&iwloc=A 432 E 32nd St] || David, owner (410-653-0900) || Former Halal grocery store, so one room with half-finished basement. Power for industrial freezers etc. Bathroom in basement. Nice storefront on 32nd street, close to other stuff and parking. No outdoor space, only front door entrance, air conditioning but no info on additional ventilation. || 1000 || $1500 || $1.50 ||[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlesser/3663483822/sizes/l/ pic] || Yes (Jon Lesser & Avery)<br />
|-<br />
| Around corner from Charles Theatre, Kelly Egan has address || contact || description || 450-500 || 750 || 1.66 || [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7557283@N07/sets/72157620679006936/ pic] || Yes (Kelly Egan)<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| Address (copy and paste this row when you add) || contact || description || square feet || rent || price / sq ft || links || contacted<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Resources ==<br />
=== Online Industrial Real Estate Search ===<br />
* [http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/Search-Results-Map.aspx?stateID=3&countyID=24005 Long and Foster] (Change map options to "rentals" and "commercial/industrial"<br />
* [http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/propertysearch MacKenzie] (rerun search for industrial in Baltimore)<br />
* [http://baltimore.craigslist.org/off/ Craigslist commercial rental]<br />
* [http://www.loopnet.com/Maryland/Baltimore_Industrial-Properties-For-Lease/ Loop net]<br />
* [http://www.cityfeet.com/CommercialRealEstateForLease/Results.aspx?PartnerPath=BaltimoreCommercialRealEstateLocal/&GeoId=813&PropertyType=3&SizeMin=0&SizeMax=7000&RentMin=0&RentMax=1000000000000&keyword=&ListingCategoryId=1&City= City Feet]<br />
<br />
=== Letter to potential landlords ===<br />
<br />
''should express who we are and what we seek to do in an extremely positive and socially uplifting light. the word "hacker" should be deemphasized.''<br />
<br />
'''DRAFT'''<br />
<br />
We're hoping for something in the range of 2000 - 20000 ft^2, amenable to being used as light industrial/technological workspace. A garage or something similar would be best. <br />
<br />
The goal of Baltimore Node is to build a membership based, non-profit open creative space where folks can hold classes, attend workshops, and generally geek out on hardware and electronics. A few examples are:<br />
<br />
* http://hacdc.org/<br />
* http://thehacktory.org/<br />
* http://www.nycresistor.com/<br />
* http://hackpittsburgh.org/<br />
* http://www.noisebridge.net/</div>Rojhttps://wiki.baltimorenode.org/index.php?title=Project_Proposals&diff=213Project Proposals2009-07-02T02:40:39Z<p>Roj: /* AM Radio Transmitter */</p>
<hr />
<div>== UAV Project(s) ==<br />
<br />
=== Ardupilot ===<br />
<br />
[http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/ardupilot-main-page Kit]<br />
<br />
==== Parts: ====<br />
<br />
* 1x $25 board that connects to an arduino to control a plane, boat, or car via gps.<br />
* 1x GPS Module $60 <br />
* 1x Optional board to make it compatible with R/C planes.<br />
<br />
=== Blimpduino ===<br />
<br />
[http://store.diydrones.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=KT-0000-01 Kit]<br />
<br />
== Bicycle POV LED ==<br />
<br />
==== Examples: ====<br />
http://www.instructables.com/id/RGBike-POV-Open-project/<br />
<br />
==== Parts: ====<br />
<br />
* 1x ATMega328p / ATMega168 microcontroller<br />
* 1x TLC5940 / TLC5941, 16 PWM Ouput LED driver<br />
* 16x Superflux RGB LEDs<br />
* 1x A3213<br />
* 3x PN2222, NPN transistors<br />
* Assorted resistors, capacitors, tact switches and connectors (check schematic and board layout)<br />
<br />
== Gorilla Marketing ==<br />
HonFest marks the beginning of the festival season. While its too late to get booth at any of these events its not too late to make our presence known. What if we had a workshop where we made some sort of gorilla marketing device. One way to go would be some sort electronic apparel, like an ambient orb hat or some kind of musical shirt, etc. Or it could follow examples of other gorilla marketers like the [http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/about.php|chalk printing bicycle] or a flashing LED signs (WARNING: Not sure if the Baltimore police are as reactionary as the [http://laughingsquid.com/aqua-teen-hunger-force-promo-causes-panic-in-boston| Boston police].) Something simple, fun and easy to individualize. Why not tell people about the newly energized Baltimore Hacker community?<br />
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== Ambient Orb ==<br />
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==== Examples: ====<br />
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* http://fightpc.blogspot.com/2008/03/arduino-mood-light.html<br />
* http://www.instructables.com/id/Mobius_LED_Lantern/<br />
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==== Parts: ====<br />
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* 1 x Arduino or Clone ~$20-$30<br />
* 1 x Some Sort of Difuser. i.e. Frosted lamp, saran wrap, etc. $0-A lot<br />
* 1+ LED's high or low power<br />
** Low Power LED: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=105<br />
*** Does not require extra parts<br />
** http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8718<br />
*** High Power LED: External power source: http://store.gravitech.us/waadswposu12.html<br />
*** Heatsink<br />
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== Weather Instruments and Networks ==<br />
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Build weather instruments, assemble into a weather station using wifi, etc. Install around Inner Harbor, and "Northwest Harbor" (Canton). Especially wind and waves for sailors. <br />
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Instruments, compare with Ft. McHenry data http://opendap.co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/stations/stationData.jsp?id=8574680 and http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/geo.shtml?location=21201<br />
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Feed data to:<br />
* weather underground http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/index.asp<br />
* Citizen Weather Observer Program http://www.wxqa.com/ and http://www.findu.com/<br />
* NOAA http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/coop/ & other programs<br />
* Local marinas & sailing centers:<br />
** downtownsailing.org<br />
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Installation locations:<br />
* downtownsailing.org at Baltimore Museum of Industry, Riverside/Locust Point.<br />
* Marinas<br />
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===== Display stations =====<br />
Build a small display station with LCD display from salvaged laptop showing wind, waves, sever-weather/radar, etc. for the Inner Harbor. Install at marinas, etc.<br />
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== AM Radio Transmitter ==<br />
You don't need any sort of licensing to broadcast on AM frequencies if your transmitter is 100 milliwatts or less. A transmitter with a basic wire antenna can get 50 to 200 feet of range, however a more substantial outdoor antenna can transmit as far as two miles. I would be interested in setting up an internet radio station and then using multiple transmitters to broadcast that station over AM around Baltimore. The transmitter stations would require enough computing resources to connect to the internet in some way, decode an internet radio stream, and output an audio signal to the AM transmitter. The transmitters themselves can be purchased for about $75-100 dollars, but it's possible we could construct a transmitter from plans for much cheaper. Five to ten well placed transmitters could cover a significant amount Baltimore city. <br />
* [http://www.sstran.com/index.html Transmitter Information]<br />
* [http://www.fcc.gov/lpfm/ Low Power FM (!) alternative]<br />
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===== Steps =====<br />
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* Setup a stream<br />
* Build an Arduino/xbee that dials into the stream and outputs audio<br />
* Connect audio with AM transmitter<br />
* Build a nice case with antennae(s)<br />
* Replicate and distribute<br />
* Broadcast to the masses<br />
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===== Hacker Radio Broadcast topics =====<br />
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* Freeculture<br />
* DIY discussions<br />
* Copyright law<br />
* Opensource<br />
* Coverage of local events<br />
* Creative Commons music show?<br />
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== Intervention at Baltimore Development Collective's geodesic dome ==<br />
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/artbma/3620589054/ This dome] is a finalist in the Sondheim Artscape Prize. It's located in front of the Baltimore Museum of Art. It is just begging for a techno-art intervention from the Baltimore Node.</div>Roj